Getting RangeError.TOO_LOW in production on ADS deployCampaigns

Ross, I think you're right. I'm going to look more into this today.

From: Ross Gardner
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:40 PM
To: Manasa Denning; Caitlyn Duggan
Cc: Jeffrey Collemer; Elizabeth Fox; Sharon Burt; Jeff Theroux
Subject: Re: [TSAInternal] BES and campagin deployment - not enough budget

This sounds like a deployment problem to me. If the daily budget for an SE campaign is < 0.01 at deployment, its budget should probably be set to 0.01 rather than the real value (0.004 in this case). Over time it may accumulate enough budget to be spent, just not on the first day. Caitlyn, I thought there was a minimum (0.01) on the initial budgets sent to Google ... yes/no?

Ross

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On 11/29/2012 10:29 PM, Manasa Denning wrote:
> 0.4 cents which is not enough budget.
>
> We are definitely going to ask Optus to deploy the site with much fewer campaigns. The question I was avoiding from Optus was why did we recommend X budget when it is not enough to deploy the campaigns, if that makes sense.
>
> Regards,
>
> Manasa Denning | Software Operations Leader
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> ----Original Message----
> From: Jeffrey Collemer
> Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 2:27 PM
> To: Manasa Denning
> Cc: Ross Gardner; Elizabeth Fox; Sharon Burt; Caitlyn Duggan
> Subject: Re: [TSAInternal] BES and campagin deployment - not enough budget
>
> $64.35 / 30.4 / (170 x 3) = ?
>
> -Jeff
>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:59 PM, "Manasa Denning" <Manasa.Denning@thesearchagency.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>
>> I am looking into the campaign deployment issue for the following customer in PROD.
>> Customer ID: 94542373000155-0414015935 TSA account ID is: 826
>>
>> The campaign deployment failed with the following error.
>> reason=RangeError.TOO_LOW, field=operations[53].operand.budget.amount
>>
>> My understanding is google did not deploy these campaigns because there wasn't enough budget.
>>
>> So I went and got the BES soap request Optus made and the response received.
>> Summing up the minimum Price as recommended by google it is: 55.876
>>
>> I then looked at the nominal budget tables to see what the monthly
>> budget is: It is 64.35 Just to double check, I also confirmed what the budget Optus were passing in as the monthly budget and that is 64.35.
>>
>> As expected this matches the value for the monthly budget in the admaxNominalMonthlyBudgets table.
>>
>> What was interesting was the budget estimate request was made in early November and Optus tried to deploy the campaigns for this account on the 27th of November.
>>
>> My next thought was may be google changed the minimum and maximum pricing for the BA/BL combinations.
>> So I resent the budget estimate request and calculated the total minimum Price.
>>
>> The minimum Price as of 30th November for the BA/BL combinations for
>> this account is: 62.538 The minimum Price early November for the BA/BL
>> combinations for this account was: 55.876
>>
>> So these values have changed.
>>
>> But minimum Price is still few dollars (around 2 dollars) behind the budget optus is setting for this customer per month which is 64.35.
>>
>> This account has a large number of site campaigns around 170.
>>
>> Each site campaign (ie., each BA/BL pair), has 3 search engine campaigns.
>> When we recommend the minimum price for each BA/BL combination to Optus, is it the minimum price for each site campaign?
>>
>> For example we have BA1/BL1. This will eventually be BA1/BL1 - GM, BA1/BL1 - GT and BA1/BL1 - MO.
>>
>> For a given BA1/BL1 to have enough budget to de deployed at google, do we need 3 times the minimum price for each BA/BL combination to be successfully deployed at google? Or the value returned by BES for minimum price, does it take care of the fact that we are going to deploying three SE campaigns per BA/BL combination.
>>
>> I guess I am trying to figure out, if google is giving Optus bad advice.
>>
>> Could you please advise.
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manasa Denning | Software Operations Leader The Search Agency, Inc.
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